tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5428824763182540039.post6206397287998550267..comments2024-01-17T09:33:57.158-08:00Comments on Brain Rage: Lady Gaga's "Telephone" Video ControversyJBWhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13293642610215334516noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5428824763182540039.post-88966023468969021612010-03-21T01:00:14.096-07:002010-03-21T01:00:14.096-07:00Gracias, stardust. Always good to hear from a fel...Gracias, stardust. Always good to hear from a fellow non-believer, especially from as far away as Copenhagen. And I think your NBK comment is right on: the entire video is replete with homages and pop cultural references. Anyone who reads too much into that is wasting their time, in my opinion.JBWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13293642610215334516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5428824763182540039.post-64743037665109706092010-03-20T17:22:00.169-07:002010-03-20T17:22:00.169-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.stardusthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18342577122108039679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5428824763182540039.post-36508402475241546542010-03-20T17:21:58.816-07:002010-03-20T17:21:58.816-07:00I just have to say that i LOVE the quote at the to...I just have to say that i LOVE the quote at the top of your page.<br />Also, love the scarlet A...;) It is good to see a fellow atheist using the symbol! <br /><br />As far as Lady Gaga goes...whatever the video may or may not mean, people are overreacting when they say that it 'promotes murder'! How silly. I haven't figured out the point of the video yet (if there is one) but I think she is musically talented. She pushes boundaries over and over, especially in her videos, and that is fine with me. These boundaries need to be pushed. <br />To be honest, the murder scenes in the videos were more of an homage to 'Natural Born Killers' than anything new and shocking.stardusthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18342577122108039679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5428824763182540039.post-51175460968166160612010-03-17T11:33:55.298-07:002010-03-17T11:33:55.298-07:00To be honest one L, I hadn't put much thought ...To be honest one L, I hadn't put much thought into the "message" of the video because it really didn't make much sense. It's a music video. Yes, there have been some over the years that actually had something important to say but for the most part I just relegate them to the category of art and/or fluff and leave it at that. Rios obviously finds them much more critical and pivotal for society (or at least claims to).<br /><br />I take exception to the "thinking about and discussing" comments not so much because I think that she's trying to tell me what to think (although I obviously framed my criticism as such for dramatic effect) but rather because if she had her way, neither you nor I nor anyone else would be able to watch the video in question and thus think about and discuss it. She's not trying to censor what I think per say, she'd just censor anything she believes might cause me to think thoughts she doesn't find appropriate and I have a big problem with that.<br /><br />As to Gaga, I pretty much agree with your assessment of her although as I said I'm not much of a fan so I don't really care about most of what she does. Obviously she's marketing herself in a certain way that demands attention and she's pushing certain boundaries of free expression that I feel should be pushed but I don't consider her a person of any great consequence to our society or culture.<br /><br />Oh, and Doogie's character was one of the best parts of <i>Starship Troopers</i>. Since you're enjoying your spring break I'm not going to berate you about the genius that is NPH, although I will suggest that you should recognize such. NPH!JBWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13293642610215334516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5428824763182540039.post-35198036004427089042010-03-17T10:57:15.499-07:002010-03-17T10:57:15.499-07:00Sorry for the typo's. I should proof-read.Sorry for the typo's. I should proof-read.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5428824763182540039.post-22187166480232214562010-03-17T10:54:21.115-07:002010-03-17T10:54:21.115-07:00I don't even know where to start with this, so...I don't even know where to start with this, so I'll take Rios:<br /><br />[Full Disclosure: I am relying on your transcript for this. If I wasn't on spring break right now, there's almost no chance I'd have watched made time for the music video itself, much less an interview.]<br /><br />I don't have a problem with "much less thinking about, from my perspective" because it seems like a personal statement. I don't think she's telling everyone else not to think about it. As for not "discussing" it, I'll give her some leeway there as well. She probably doesn't want to discuss it because she doesn't want to think about it. When Kelly keeps it going, it sounds like Rios is trying to explain one of the reasons why she doesn't like it. I'm thinking her 85% statistic is more along the lines of deeply involved with porn... how you define that, I'm not sure. Whatever.<br /><br />But with that aside - and I know that last paragraph doesn't mean much - I don't get this video. What's the point?<br /><br />[2nd Full Disclosure: I own The Fame Monster album and really enjoy the tunes. I've read multiple interviews with, and about, her in the past. I have never seen another video of hers though.]<br /><br />Gaga generally sees herself as some new-age pariah who is here to bring tolerance and sexual freedom to the world. I think she feels like she has the ability and podium to really produce change, and her performances, lyrics, videos, interviews, etc are all meant to push these boundaries... and who are we to stop her?<br /><br />But the more I see and hear of her, the more I think she's really just a shock jock. I have ben struggling to come up with the best analogy for this situation and I just can't find it. When I started thinking about it, people like Howard Stern, Bill O'Reilly and others came to mind. <br /><br />However, I think the best comparison I can make is to the movie Starship Troopers. Given a few different decisions, that movie could have been a legitimate, sincere sci-fi flick. Somewhere along the way, however, somebody decided to cast (studly) Caspar Van Dien and Denise Richards as the leads... then they decided to add boobs, cheesy effects, cheesier dialogue and Doogie Howser for good measure. <br /><br />These were all intentional decisions with deliberate outcomes. I think Lady Gaga is very much the same. She knows what she's going, but I'm not quite sure if she realizes that she's flirting pretty hard with becoming a caricature of what she'd like to stand for.<br /><br />That video was not coherent or consistent. I don't really know what story she was trying to tell other than to make all these little gutteral connections with her viewers. Frankly, I think I have a bigger problem with the (semmingly) unnecessary hate sequence in the diner. I think that might have sent a worse message (whatever the message was) to the children than the bikini girls in jail. At least a 12yo knows that the bikini girls are specifically there for his entertainment. What's he supposed to make of the murder though?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5428824763182540039.post-52456460837806654512010-03-17T01:30:32.363-07:002010-03-17T01:30:32.363-07:00Gracias, halnwolf.
Gracias as well, Melissa. Vil...Gracias, halnwolf.<br /><br />Gracias as well, Melissa. Vilifying criminals is one of the best ways to take rights away from law abiding citizens who enjoy things one disagrees with. Don't believe the hype.<br /><br />Dispute the taste of the video if you will T101 (I'm not defending it, by the way) but your point about kids learning about nasty shit is well taken. Rios and her conservative cohorts long for a time of childhood innocence that is almost entirely fictional in our country's history.<br /><br />Beaver Cleaver was a fictional character. And I'm not saying that we should constantly expose our kids to porn but we also shouldn't be afraid to explain it to them in an age appropriate way either. That's why the Cons are so scared of sexuality: they have no idea how to discuss it in any language that doesn't also condemn it as well, and kids have excellent bullshit detectors when it comes to that kind of thing.JBWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13293642610215334516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5428824763182540039.post-77578163569922341872010-03-16T13:11:05.051-07:002010-03-16T13:11:05.051-07:00Our kids have to to learn about nasty shit. They...Our kids have to to learn about nasty shit. They learn from parents through example. If Dad watches porn, at least with the kids around, that's a bad example.<br /><br /> This video is an example of bad taste at most.Joe "Truth 101" Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08875151516978133598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5428824763182540039.post-87539272296468824652010-03-15T22:50:51.119-07:002010-03-15T22:50:51.119-07:00Thank you! I couldn't have put it any better m...Thank you! I couldn't have put it any better myself. I saw the video with Sandy Rios and I was absolutely disgusted with this woman. To say that this should be banned because our world is filled with sexual predators who are involved with porn is ludicrous! This isn't pronography, it's a music video. Yes, it's racy and sexual, but what isn't these days? If you don't like it, turn it off and don't let your kids watch it. Don't try to decide what I shouldn't watch.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12637967753823721600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5428824763182540039.post-7219930861819995592010-03-15T20:22:54.642-07:002010-03-15T20:22:54.642-07:00Well spokenWell spokenUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04813624650137631873noreply@blogger.com